Comments on: still for hill http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/ An American in Bloomsbury Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:11:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Anglofille http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55260 Anglofille Wed, 21 May 2008 22:46:43 +0000 http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55260 Sorry for the delay in comment moderation, but I've been out of town! Nae: I know there are lots of Obama supporters who don't engage in this slimy behavior. I certainly don't mean to sling mud at everyone. It's just that as a Hillary supporter, my experience is probably much different from yours. Since you are an Obama supporter, perhaps you haven't experienced the attacks and childish behavior that I have (and people telling me I'm racist for not voting for Obama). It's been especially difficult as a feminist. I feel that many feminists backing Obama feel conflicted about it on some level. They get very defensive and lash out at any hint of criticism of Obama or their choice to vote for him. I've been on the receiving end of this and I won't forget it anytime soon. All of these experiences have made me very bitter. I'm sure that if Hillary were going to win the nomination, there would be plenty of Obama supporters who would not vote for her either. There is bitterness on both sides, but the "winner" has more of a responsibility I feel and so far, I think Obama has sat back and let this kind of behavior happen. Too bad this race has been so very ugly on both sides. It could have been something great for America. Vol: I'm glad he's just now realized it's a good idea to call off the dogs. Too little, too late... SpliceGirl: They could never have None of the Above -- 90% of voters would choose that one!!! Sorry for the delay in comment moderation, but I’ve been out of town!

Nae: I know there are lots of Obama supporters who don’t engage in this slimy behavior. I certainly don’t mean to sling mud at everyone. It’s just that as a Hillary supporter, my experience is probably much different from yours. Since you are an Obama supporter, perhaps you haven’t experienced the attacks and childish behavior that I have (and people telling me I’m racist for not voting for Obama). It’s been especially difficult as a feminist. I feel that many feminists backing Obama feel conflicted about it on some level. They get very defensive and lash out at any hint of criticism of Obama or their choice to vote for him. I’ve been on the receiving end of this and I won’t forget it anytime soon. All of these experiences have made me very bitter.

I’m sure that if Hillary were going to win the nomination, there would be plenty of Obama supporters who would not vote for her either. There is bitterness on both sides, but the “winner” has more of a responsibility I feel and so far, I think Obama has sat back and let this kind of behavior happen. Too bad this race has been so very ugly on both sides. It could have been something great for America.

Vol: I’m glad he’s just now realized it’s a good idea to call off the dogs. Too little, too late…

SpliceGirl: They could never have None of the Above — 90% of voters would choose that one!!!

]]> By: SpliceGirl http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55256 SpliceGirl Wed, 21 May 2008 22:17:10 +0000 http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55256 If BO actually did say to be nice to Hillary supporters it's only because now he wants our votes to get him into office. Now he'll start acting like he LOVES us. Too bad. I have a loooooong memory. And I'm not very forgiving. I think I should start a "None of the Above" vote campaign for November like in the movie "Brewster's Millions". What do you think? I don't think it's fair that we don't have a write-in or NONE option to vote with. Isn't that what a true democracy is? CHOICE? Why should I let a handful or super-delegates choose for me, especially if I didn't even vote for THEM?! If BO actually did say to be nice to Hillary supporters it’s only because now he wants our votes to get him into office. Now he’ll start acting like he LOVES us.

Too bad. I have a loooooong memory. And I’m not very forgiving.

I think I should start a “None of the Above” vote campaign for November like in the movie “Brewster’s Millions”. What do you think? I don’t think it’s fair that we don’t have a write-in or NONE option to vote with. Isn’t that what a true democracy is? CHOICE? Why should I let a handful or super-delegates choose for me, especially if I didn’t even vote for THEM?!

]]> By: Vol Abroad http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55175 Vol Abroad Wed, 21 May 2008 07:50:49 +0000 http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55175 I think I read somewhere that he's finally asked his supporters to be nice to us Hillary Clinton voters. Blecchhhh.... Maybe I'm not ready to make nice. And I am a party loyalist. I think I read somewhere that he’s finally asked his supporters to be nice to us Hillary Clinton voters.

Blecchhhh….

Maybe I’m not ready to make nice.

And I am a party loyalist.

]]> By: nae http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55084 nae Tue, 20 May 2008 14:29:04 +0000 http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55084 I can understand why you're angry with some of Obama's supporters, but i wouldn't paint the entire Obama campaign with the brush of sexism. I've never seen Obama or any of his actual advisors say anything about Hillary that approached sexism (i wish i could say the same for Hillary's camp and racism, but that "working class white" comment was disappointing), and i don't think you can characterize an entire campaign on the basis of some sexist supporters. I'm a (female) Obama supporter and i've never thought of the contest as a male/female thing, or even a black/white thing. I chose Obama after a lot of research because i like the way he looks at issues and i think he'll have an open mind for the problems America faces today. I don't have a problem with Hillary supporters or Hillary herself, i just like my candidate more. I'm sure there are plenty of other Obama supporters just like me. I can understand why you’re angry with some of Obama’s supporters, but i wouldn’t paint the entire Obama campaign with the brush of sexism. I’ve never seen Obama or any of his actual advisors say anything about Hillary that approached sexism (i wish i could say the same for Hillary’s camp and racism, but that “working class white” comment was disappointing), and i don’t think you can characterize an entire campaign on the basis of some sexist supporters.

I’m a (female) Obama supporter and i’ve never thought of the contest as a male/female thing, or even a black/white thing. I chose Obama after a lot of research because i like the way he looks at issues and i think he’ll have an open mind for the problems America faces today. I don’t have a problem with Hillary supporters or Hillary herself, i just like my candidate more. I’m sure there are plenty of other Obama supporters just like me.

]]> By: Anita http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55007 Anita Mon, 19 May 2008 22:36:43 +0000 http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-55007 I cooled on the Clintons when I started experiencing the use of race as a weapon. I won't be doing a write-in in the fall. I'm a democrat and I'll vote party line with the knowledge that there was enough racism and sexism to remind everyone that gender and race are still huge issues in the US. Either we'll address them or we won't. It would have been nice if we could have had honest discourse during this campaign, but that didn't happen. Both candidates lacked the sophistication to make it happen. Regardless, I don't want to live in America with McCain as President. That's more than I should have to do. I cooled on the Clintons when I started experiencing the use of race as a weapon. I won’t be doing a write-in in the fall. I’m a democrat and I’ll vote party line with the knowledge that there was enough racism and sexism to remind everyone that gender and race are still huge issues in the US. Either we’ll address them or we won’t. It would have been nice if we could have had honest discourse during this campaign, but that didn’t happen. Both candidates lacked the sophistication to make it happen. Regardless, I don’t want to live in America with McCain as President. That’s more than I should have to do.

]]> By: SpliceGirl http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-54976 SpliceGirl Mon, 19 May 2008 16:44:49 +0000 http://www.anglofille.com/2008/05/19/still-for-hill/#comment-54976 It is absolutely going to come back and bite Obama's camp in the ass - them and their cult-like "followers" vile campaign against Hillary. Did you read over on my blog about NARAL backing Obama? Disgusting. I hope all these organizations feel the backlash and get a huge face slap like they gave Hillary. I will never vote for Obama or donate to any of the organizations that back-stabbed Hillary. This will absolutely be one of the most embarrassing chapters in our country's history. It is absolutely going to come back and bite Obama’s camp in the ass - them and their cult-like “followers” vile campaign against Hillary. Did you read over on my blog about NARAL backing Obama? Disgusting. I hope all these organizations feel the backlash and get a huge face slap like they gave Hillary. I will never vote for Obama or donate to any of the organizations that back-stabbed Hillary. This will absolutely be one of the most embarrassing chapters in our country’s history.

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